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	<title>Comments on: Colorado GOP Woos Tea Partiers, Will they Accept?</title>
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		<title>By: elpresidente</title>
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		<dc:creator>elpresidente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 05:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Politicians may appear to be hearing folks, but as for doing anything about it, both parties are consistent in turning a deaf ear to voters when political considerations arise.

I won&#039;t respond, however, to the P4P until the platform appears more stable than the hastily executed hodge-podge--noted by two other bloggers (http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/11/platform-for-prosperity-contract-for-colorado-waffling-on-car-fees-removal-poses-conflict-for-voters/) and (http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/11/gob-united-gop-undecided/)--becomes more concrete.  The ball is still in McInnis&#039; court, not mine.

Here&#039;s what I wrote on Facebook:
&quot;My point and part of the point in Ben&#039;s post is that there is work to do. McInnis has the opportunity to attract voters to his side, not simply cruise on the idea that they will default to him. Good grief, I&#039;m a Republican and so is Ben--we want the party to be based on good principles and the candidates to worthy of support. McInnis can certainly do that if he has a mind to, but this cycle, the feet will be held very close to the fire . . .&quot;

As members of our party it is our duty to hold our candidates to a set of standards.  Money is just one part of that.  McInnis still has to campaign and earn our votes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians may appear to be hearing folks, but as for doing anything about it, both parties are consistent in turning a deaf ear to voters when political considerations arise.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t respond, however, to the P4P until the platform appears more stable than the hastily executed hodge-podge&#8211;noted by two other bloggers (<a href="http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/11/platform-for-prosperity-contract-for-colorado-waffling-on-car-fees-removal-poses-conflict-for-voters/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peoplespresscollective.org%2F2009%2F11%2Fplatform-for-prosperity-contract-for-colorado-waffling-on-car-fees-removal-poses-conflict-for-voters%2F','http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peoplespresscollective.org%2F2009%2F11%2Fplatform-for-prosperity-contract-for-colorado-waffling-on-car-fees-removal-poses-conflict-for-voters%2F')" rel="nofollow">http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/11/platform-for-prosperity-contract-for-colorado-waffling-on-car-fees-removal-poses-conflict-for-voters/</a>) and (<a href="http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/11/gob-united-gop-undecided/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peoplespresscollective.org%2F2009%2F11%2Fgob-united-gop-undecided%2F','http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peoplespresscollective.org%2F2009%2F11%2Fgob-united-gop-undecided%2F')" rel="nofollow">http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/11/gob-united-gop-undecided/</a>)&#8211;becomes more concrete.  The ball is still in McInnis&#8217; court, not mine.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I wrote on Facebook:<br />
&#8220;My point and part of the point in Ben&#8217;s post is that there is work to do. McInnis has the opportunity to attract voters to his side, not simply cruise on the idea that they will default to him. Good grief, I&#8217;m a Republican and so is Ben&#8211;we want the party to be based on good principles and the candidates to worthy of support. McInnis can certainly do that if he has a mind to, but this cycle, the feet will be held very close to the fire . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>As members of our party it is our duty to hold our candidates to a set of standards.  Money is just one part of that.  McInnis still has to campaign and earn our votes.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/12/colorado-gop-woos-tea-partiers-will-they-accept/comment-page-1/#comment-8487</link>
		<dc:creator>Donald Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With all due respect, but Penry had picked the low fruit. He decided that he wouldn&#039;t be competitive in fundraising, and he knew better than anyone else. 

If you have been listening to the people who&#039;ve attended forums and rallies held by the candidates, you&#039;d recognize that the Platform for Prosperity (P4P) shows that McInnis, Penry and others involved in writing it have been listening. P4P is strong because it reflects what the base have been telling gubernatorial candidates. 

Politicians have to listen. Then they have to tell voters what they heard and how they plan to be responsive as elected officials. That&#039;s what McInnis is trying to do, and I happen to think he&#039;s doing a pretty good job. Now, you and I and other critics can kick the tires and decide whether McInnis or other candidates have done a better job or will do a better job of responding to voters&#039; (not just the base&#039;s) concerns. 

If you don&#039;t like the P4P, why not? Let&#039;s see your concerns and criticisms. Please be very specific with your complaints and constructive with your recommendations.

The fact is that at some point a candidate has to take charge. He can&#039;t rule by committee or straw pole. He has to show his creativity and political skills. McInnis is doing a pretty good job of that while Maes is mostly just complaining. I keep waiting for Maes to counter the P4P. He claims that it steals from his ideas, but that&#039;s what smart politicians do. They co-op their opponents and claim the best ideas as their own. Of course, the opponents don&#039;t like it, but politics ain&#039;t fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, but Penry had picked the low fruit. He decided that he wouldn&#8217;t be competitive in fundraising, and he knew better than anyone else. </p>
<p>If you have been listening to the people who&#8217;ve attended forums and rallies held by the candidates, you&#8217;d recognize that the Platform for Prosperity (P4P) shows that McInnis, Penry and others involved in writing it have been listening. P4P is strong because it reflects what the base have been telling gubernatorial candidates. </p>
<p>Politicians have to listen. Then they have to tell voters what they heard and how they plan to be responsive as elected officials. That&#8217;s what McInnis is trying to do, and I happen to think he&#8217;s doing a pretty good job. Now, you and I and other critics can kick the tires and decide whether McInnis or other candidates have done a better job or will do a better job of responding to voters&#8217; (not just the base&#8217;s) concerns. </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like the P4P, why not? Let&#8217;s see your concerns and criticisms. Please be very specific with your complaints and constructive with your recommendations.</p>
<p>The fact is that at some point a candidate has to take charge. He can&#8217;t rule by committee or straw pole. He has to show his creativity and political skills. McInnis is doing a pretty good job of that while Maes is mostly just complaining. I keep waiting for Maes to counter the P4P. He claims that it steals from his ideas, but that&#8217;s what smart politicians do. They co-op their opponents and claim the best ideas as their own. Of course, the opponents don&#8217;t like it, but politics ain&#8217;t fair.</p>
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		<title>By: elpresidente</title>
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		<dc:creator>elpresidente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McInnis has won the insiders money primary.  Penry wasn&#039;t that far behind.

What you fail to realize is that backroom deals, and platforms formulated without consultation of the party in general, is not only outdated but completely deaf to the current political climate.

McInnis can win all the money primaries he wants--he still needs to earn the votes of Republicans and any other Colorado voter, not simply expect their deference and demand their vote because he happened to raise a bunch of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McInnis has won the insiders money primary.  Penry wasn&#8217;t that far behind.</p>
<p>What you fail to realize is that backroom deals, and platforms formulated without consultation of the party in general, is not only outdated but completely deaf to the current political climate.</p>
<p>McInnis can win all the money primaries he wants&#8211;he still needs to earn the votes of Republicans and any other Colorado voter, not simply expect their deference and demand their vote because he happened to raise a bunch of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you guys fail to realize is that it looks like McInnis has won the money primary. Maes hasn&#039;t even gotten started, and it&#039;s probably too late for him to get off the ground. You can whine and pine, but the reality of politics is that you have to be able to pay to play. And that means you have to win the money primary. Tell me who&#039;s going to give Maes the $ so he can be competitive. Tell me who is so passionate about Maes that they will be able to help him beat McInnis. So far, I don&#039;t see it happening. All I see is a bunch whining. I don&#039;t have a candidate in this or any other race. I just can&#039;t stand seeing people ignore reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you guys fail to realize is that it looks like McInnis has won the money primary. Maes hasn&#8217;t even gotten started, and it&#8217;s probably too late for him to get off the ground. You can whine and pine, but the reality of politics is that you have to be able to pay to play. And that means you have to win the money primary. Tell me who&#8217;s going to give Maes the $ so he can be competitive. Tell me who is so passionate about Maes that they will be able to help him beat McInnis. So far, I don&#8217;t see it happening. All I see is a bunch whining. I don&#8217;t have a candidate in this or any other race. I just can&#8217;t stand seeing people ignore reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Derec Shuler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derec Shuler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points.  This type of anointing before the primary takes place is what has so many conservative, liberty loving Americans taking up the activist banner after the 2008 election.

Like you said, we may not pull the handle for Ritter but it may not be for anyone either.  That&#039;s not the enthusiasm you need among your electorate to unseat an incumbent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points.  This type of anointing before the primary takes place is what has so many conservative, liberty loving Americans taking up the activist banner after the 2008 election.</p>
<p>Like you said, we may not pull the handle for Ritter but it may not be for anyone either.  That&#8217;s not the enthusiasm you need among your electorate to unseat an incumbent.</p>
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