One Child, One Vote: “Strong Families” or Vote Farms?
by T.L. James | 11:12 am, October 16, 2009 | 8 Comments
Via a (barely-literate) Facebook comment this morning, I discovered 1Child1Vote (aka onechildonevote.org). The organization’s focus is, as the title suggests, “one child, one vote” – voting rights for all U.S. citizens, regardless of age.
And they do mean “regardless of age” quite literally.
The very moment a child is born on United States soil, he or she automatically acquires US citizenship (14th Amendment of the US Constitution: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside” ), with all the rights and responsibilities citizenship entails. Among the rights of US citizens is the right to vote. And with that vote, citizens can defend their other rights, protect their interests, and ensure their needs are met…
Who looks after those interests? The child’s parents or legal guardians, presumably. And the State, supposedly, through policies and legislation enacted by our elected representatives. But those “representatives” represent their constituents, and more particularly, their voters. It is through the vote that citizens defend their interests in the democratic arena.
Today, the last disenfranchised group to be discriminated against and denied the right to vote, as yesterday women and blacks were, is the group formed by United States citizens under 18 years of age. It is precisely the children in our society who will live longer with the consequences of election results. They are the most affected by them (war, debt, pollution, low wages…); how illogical that it is precisely they who are excluded from participating.The most cost-efficient, revolutionary change for the good of everyone in America today, is to recognize that all persons who are citizens of the United States, regardless of age, have the Right to Vote, and then, to facilitate the exercise of this Right. Representation of the minor by his or her guardian, tutor, caretaker or legal representative, is a common and widely accepted practice for the exercise of his or her estate-related or other rights. It is incongruous that this representation should not be applied in the case of the most important of all political rights, preserver of all other rights. [emphasis in original]
As an aside, I’ve also heard the gun referred to as “the preserver of all other rights”. I have to wonder if the people behind this effort would support extending all Constitutional rights to minors, or just the vote? After all, a child with a ballot will vote the way their parent or guardian or community organizer or other authority figure tells them to, but a child with a gun might actually shoot them.
I do recognize that there is a gray area in the mid-to-late teens, when some individuals have sufficient maturity and knowledge to exercise the franchise. Unfortunately, there’s no workable or fair way to determine this ability on a case-by-case basis across the millions of children under the age of eighteen who fall into that gray zone. Eighteen may be an arbitrary age at which to recognize the franchise, but until some means of assessing (over a large number of individuals) whether a person has in fact attained some minimal qualifications to be considered an adult, any selected age will be arbitrary. Further, any such qualifications besides simple properties like age are themselves going to be arbitrary and open to charges of unfairness.
This in fact seems to be the basis of 1Child1Vote’s childlike reasoning: since any age-based recognition of the franchise is inherently arbitrary, why then, we simply shouldn’t have one. Missing the point entirely that the arbitrary nature of the age traditionally used doesn’t invalidate the reasons a standard is desirable. Further, their fatuous comparison of the restriction of voting rights to adults to prior denials of voting rights to women and blacks is a category error which amounts to equating the undeveloped intellectual capacity of newborns and toddlers with the unacknowledged abilities of fully-developed adults in those categories.
All that said, of course the real goal here is not to have toddlers pulling the levers in voting booths, nor is it protecting the rights or public policy interests of children. The real goal is to expand the number of votes available while allowing those additional votes to be exercised by proxy by parents, guardians, or (presumably) other legally-authorized adults. It’s merely another corrupt means of stuffing the ballot box, in this case dipped in treacly ”For the Children!™” sentiments.
Far from escaping them, arbitrary standards will be a major factor even if those supporting this policy got their way. While some teenagers in that gray area of young adulthood might responsibly exercise the franchise otherwise denied them by the age-18 standard, obviously a fresh-from-the-womb newborn will be neither physically nor mentally capable of voting, and so their vote would of necessity be exercised by proxy (see below). But what of all the children in between? The gray area doesn’t simply go away - instead of an arbitrary but equal age standard, there would be the undefinable and hence unavoidably subjective ”qualification” standard I alluded to above. At what age or under what conditions would a child be guaranteed the right to vote unhindered and without the oversight of the adult who until then had functioned as their proxy?
Then there are the policy questions regarding which adult gets to exercise the proxy vote on behalf of a particular child, how those proxies would be allocated in the case of divorce or intra-family adoptions, whether the noncustodial parent or the guardian (in the case of foster care, for example) has exercise of a child’s voting rights, how the votes of unplaced orphans (direct wards of the state) would be executed, etc. Just imagine how much more complicated the Gosselin mess would be with womb-to-tomb voting, or the strife in a family whose parents are polar opposites like James Carville and Mary Matalin, where the manipulation and pressuring of the young children during an election season would be incessant.
Further, there are the unintended consequences to consider. Parents might decide or be induced to have or adopt children in large numbers, whether to acquire more votes for their own interests, or out of loyalty to or in response to bribery from a particular party or cause. Such families could quickly grow beyond the parents’ means to provide for them, putting an increased strain on public services and creating a positive feedback loop where politicians are incentivized to pander to such families on promises to expand such services, permitting more such families to be created. Worse, those unscrupulous enough to produce or adopt children for their votes would probably be unscrupulous enough to cast those children off after an election has been concluded and their vote is no longer needed for the next eighteen months or so – let public and private child services deal with them in the period between elections, and then retrieve or adopt them in time for the next primaries! Given the examples of utilitarian bad parenting one can find in any newspaper, welfare office, or school, is anyone going to argue that this wouldn’t happen?
Since they didn’t tout any examples themselves, I have to ask: does any other country in the world not restrict its voting rights to adults? I was honestly surprised not to see at least one example offered of how Country X has crib-to-casket voting and how wonderful it has been for their children and society.
There’s no obvious way to tell how big this organization is (it could just be some wannabe doogooder with a website), but it touts its association with Strong Families Inc., another website/organization with the same views on the minor vote (along with the same address). Indeed, 1Child1Vote seems to be little more than a copy of chunks of Strong Familes’ web content, and is probably little more than a puppet site set up to drive links and traffic to the main site and make it appear larger.
Strong Families has a bit more detail than 1Child1Vote, and includes this little gem, which proves my point about parents voting for their children by proxy:
As with all other rights they make use of as minors, they should be represented at the voting booth by their parents or whoever holds their legal guardianship.
By their own logic, then, my (hypothetical) single-mom neighbor with three young children becomes four times the citizen I am, so long as her children remain incapable (by some arbitrary standard) of voting independently and so long as she doesn’t remarry.
Elsewhere, they do the math and show that 90 million votes are suppressed by the minimum age on voting, an amount equal to childless adults. That’s food for thought, isn’t it?
So who is Strong Families Inc.?
It hasn’t been around long enough to generate a lot of Google results.
It turns up in Watchdog.net as a tax-exempt but not 501(c)(3) charitable “social welfare” organization.
It appears to be a project of Michael Kenwood Consulting at the same physical address, which (not “who”) is an association of independent consultants who “dare to think differently” and “offer tradition and imagination for strategic innovation”. And manageriolalia. Lots of manageriolalia. And investment consulting.
My first instinct was that Strong Families was a “Progressive” organization, but I’m not sure it isn’t a social-con organization given the (pardon the pun) focus on the family.
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October 16th, 2009 @ 11:49 am
These folks are nuts!
October 22nd, 2009 @ 2:44 am
Thank you, T.L. James, for the extra coverage! It’s encouraging to be so extensively quoted, even if you’re not dripping awestruck admiration here. You’ve obviously given the issue some thought, which is the whole point of having the website(s): getting people to think about this.
One Child One Vote! is a campaign run by Strong Families Inc., and both websites are still in development, with one deriving almost completely from the other (as you correctly noted).
I won’t respond in this first post to all the provocative questions you raise, but here are a few thoughts: You compare votes to guns, so which would you rather wield? We can all be cynical about our electoral system and about democracy in general, about gerrymandering and buying votes and fooling the electorate, but as things stand now, the way our society functions (or tries to) is through adherence to a series of consensus-imposed rules or laws, and the way we enforce those laws, or change them when we think they need to be changed or improved, is through our elected representatives (and their nominees). What we believe at SFI is that a truly just society is one where every member of society is represented, and the interests of every member of society are taken into consideration. And if you don’t vote, you are not represented. You don’t count. “Children are the first victims of poverty.” That sorry cliché is no less true for being overstated. We need to get our legislators to pay attention to kids’ needs. And you can be sure that they would pay attention to 75 million new voters! (That’s closer to the Census Bureau’s estimate of US citizens under 18 years of age, not our carelessly extrapolated 90 MM –thanks for pointing that out).
As for your single mother-of-three neighbor, she wouldn’t be 4 times the citizen you are, she would actually, finally, be as much of a citizen as you are, because her vote, like yours, would represent her interests, not hers plus those of her 3 kids. She wouldn’t have 4 votes, just as she doesn’t have 4 passports when she signs the paperwork to have travel documents issued for her kids. Rather, she would finally have her own vote all to herself, and would exercise the right to vote of the minors under her care until they were old enough to do it themselves (determining when teenagers acquire the discernment to do so is not part of our concern; there are many worthy organizations debating that particular issue). And yes, there would certainly be people who abuse the system, as there are now, but we believe the majority of parents are good parents, and good citizens.
October 22nd, 2009 @ 10:36 am
Ms. Illarramendi,
Your so-called logic almost defies rational analysis, but let\\\’s give it a shot, in the order in which you bring up certain things:
1) Would I rather wield a gun or an extra vote? I\\\’ll take the 5th — or rather the 2nd — on that one.
2) The implication that children should be granted a vote is simply a way to try to increase the voting power of lower income families since they tend to have more children than upper income families. You must then assume that those lower-income parents would used enhanced voting power to vote themselves more of the money of people who choose not to have as many children. Why don\\\’t you just come out and admit that is your real goal?
3) Every (legal) member of society is already represented, with children represented in the vote(s) of their parent(s). If a parent thinks a particular issue regarding their children is a determinative issue then that will influence how the parent votes. For example, a parent who might (without children) vote against a property tax increase might decide to support one once having children. The impact of children on voting need not extend to increasing the number of votes an adult gets in order to change the outcome of any given election.
4) If children are the first victims of poverty, then you should be ashamed of yourself for promoting a policy which would tend to cause poor people to have more children.
5) Of course the hypothetical single mother-of-three would be 4 times the citizen of a childless person. HER interests include her children in her ONE vote. Of course she would have 4 votes under your plan. How can you deny it after saying specifically that she would have her children\\\’s proxies? Not that you have any credibility to begin with, but really, what do you expect people to think of you when you say that a parent will \\"exercise the right to vote\\" of her children but that she \\"wouldn\\\’t have 4 votes.\\" Even most liberals can\\\’t manage such an utter logical inconsistency.
To put it briefly, your idea is ridiculous as is your so-called thought process.
There is a basic premise in American (and other nations) legal system that people under a certain age do not have the judgment to be allowed to vote. In that purely political sense, they are not a full-fledged political \\"person\\" and therefore not entitled to vote on their own or to the creation of a proxy vote to be cast by someone else.
Again, let\\\’s get back to the main point: Your motivation here is to increase the welfare state and the Nanny State. You submit that \\"we need to get our legislators to pay attention to the kids\\\’ needs.\\" I disagree.
Kids are the responsibility of their parents until and unless the parents are unable to take care of them or are abusive of them. The government does have a somewhat higher responsibility to children than to adults, but that\\\’s not the same as saying that kids get voting rights. The parents\\\’ votes represent the household, including any children.
The good news is that your idea won\\\’t go anywhere at all.
October 22nd, 2009 @ 12:30 pm
Wow, Rossputin, you seem pretty worked up over this. Be careful, now, with all those promiscuous \"poor people\" out to get you and your money…
Please, this is not about \"us\" vs. \"them\", it\’s about justice for all. Conservatives and liberals, old people and young people, clever and \"ornery,\" wealthy and poor, we are all citizens and should all enjoy equal rights in this blessed country of ours. Come visit our website, read \"The Hidden Penalty\" all the way through, and then we can talk. http://www.strongfamiliesinc.org. Thanks for your time.
October 22nd, 2009 @ 2:43 pm
Adela,
Please define \"justice\".
October 23rd, 2009 @ 3:50 am
Oh come on, Rossputin. This is not productive, we have better things to do. Justice is justice, it’s not a relative term for each of us to define as we see fit. From Merriam-Webster: 1 a : the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments b : judge c : the administration of law; especially : the establishment or determination of rights according to the rules of law or equity 2 a : the quality of being just, impartial, or fair b (1) : the principle or ideal of just dealing or right action (2) : conformity to this principle or ideal : righteousness c : the quality of conforming to law 3 : conformity to truth, fact, or reason : correctness
October 23rd, 2009 @ 4:50 am
Ross, forgive me for presumptions, but I do believe that Illarramendi is referring to “Social Justice”. What the hell is Social Justice? Turns out it’s something like:
I’m afraid that your veiw of justice under the Rule of Law, say from the perspective of Frederic Bastiat is far to, um, basic for Progressives.
October 23rd, 2009 @ 12:47 pm
Wesley, it’s not Ross that should forgive your presumptions, it’s me
It’s clear that this forum is not for me, unfortunately, as you are all so busy labeling and classifying people. Good luck with all your fearless, unblinking moonbattery. And come see us anytime, at wwwstrongfamiliesinc.org