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	<title>Comments on: Denver Tea Party &#8211; After-Action Report</title>
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		<title>By: Liberty on the Rocks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Now what?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty on the Rocks &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Now what?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] citizen to express how they feel about government tax and spend policies.  (Read about the Denver protest at Peoples Press Collective, where you will also find plenty of photos and video of the event).  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] citizen to express how they feel about government tax and spend policies.  (Read about the Denver protest at Peoples Press Collective, where you will also find plenty of photos and video of the event).  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ikonoclast</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ikonoclast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post - the superb photojournalism accompanied by accurate and descriptive commentary - demonstrates the real power of alternative media in contrast to the dinosaurs of print and broadcast.

Even the error made in describing the situation with &quot;the guitar player&quot; highlights both the superiority of the medium AND the messenger - note that TL James NOT ONLY commented on the response by the individual involved, but acted quickly to correct the mistake IN THE ARTICLE itself.

Try that with a newspaper or television broadcast - if you can even reach the reporter at all, and if he/she cares to do anything about it, you MIGHT get a correction buried on page A17 or a 10-second blurb on the lunchtime broadcast...

If you&#039;re getting your news from print or TV - you&#039;re not getting the news.
PPC - for the informed, interactive consumer of information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post &#8211; the superb photojournalism accompanied by accurate and descriptive commentary &#8211; demonstrates the real power of alternative media in contrast to the dinosaurs of print and broadcast.</p>
<p>Even the error made in describing the situation with &#8220;the guitar player&#8221; highlights both the superiority of the medium AND the messenger &#8211; note that TL James NOT ONLY commented on the response by the individual involved, but acted quickly to correct the mistake IN THE ARTICLE itself.</p>
<p>Try that with a newspaper or television broadcast &#8211; if you can even reach the reporter at all, and if he/she cares to do anything about it, you MIGHT get a correction buried on page A17 or a 10-second blurb on the lunchtime broadcast&#8230;</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re getting your news from print or TV &#8211; you&#8217;re not getting the news.<br />
PPC &#8211; for the informed, interactive consumer of information</p>
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		<title>By: T.L. James</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.L. James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;please quit pissing on your fellow supporters of limited government&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
I wasn&#039;t.  I was referring specifically to an individual who has a habit of hijacking the events and resources of other groups to blather on about conspiracy theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;please quit pissing on your fellow supporters of limited government&#8221;</em><br />
I wasn&#8217;t.  I was referring specifically to an individual who has a habit of hijacking the events and resources of other groups to blather on about conspiracy theories.</p>
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		<title>By: T.L. James</title>
		<link>http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/04/denver-tea-party-after-action-report/comment-page-1/#comment-2646</link>
		<dc:creator>T.L. James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, while I found your use of the symbol the least objectionable of the three, and I follow your reasoning regarding the use of cult symbols, it was still inappropriate precisely because of the kind of conclusions others drew from the use of a swastika at the anti-stimulus rally. It makes it too easy for the left-leaning media to seize on it as an &quot;expression of hate&quot; and obscure the real message of the event.

And while I too could give a hoot about the manufactured outrage of the Michael Huttners of the world, that kind of negative coverage poisons the well against the real message of the Tea Parties (fiscal responsibility and small government) for those who are open to these ideas but are hesitant for now to get involved.

Such casual use of the symbol tends, in my opinion, to trivialize the evils which it ultimately came to symbolize...and I think much the same thing about casual use of the hammer-and-sickle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, while I found your use of the symbol the least objectionable of the three, and I follow your reasoning regarding the use of cult symbols, it was still inappropriate precisely because of the kind of conclusions others drew from the use of a swastika at the anti-stimulus rally. It makes it too easy for the left-leaning media to seize on it as an &#8220;expression of hate&#8221; and obscure the real message of the event.</p>
<p>And while I too could give a hoot about the manufactured outrage of the Michael Huttners of the world, that kind of negative coverage poisons the well against the real message of the Tea Parties (fiscal responsibility and small government) for those who are open to these ideas but are hesitant for now to get involved.</p>
<p>Such casual use of the symbol tends, in my opinion, to trivialize the evils which it ultimately came to symbolize&#8230;and I think much the same thing about casual use of the hammer-and-sickle.</p>
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		<title>By: T.L. James</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.L. James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, thanks, I added a correction above. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, thanks, I added a correction above.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the guitar player.  I&#039;m on your side.  I was a witness to an earlier incident of a man throwing a screwdriver and hitting a woman in the arm.  I was being asked to fill out a witness statement in the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the guitar player.  I&#8217;m on your side.  I was a witness to an earlier incident of a man throwing a screwdriver and hitting a woman in the arm.  I was being asked to fill out a witness statement in the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven M Nielson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven M Nielson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am the gentleman pictured with the &quot;Hope/Change/Obey&quot; image in this story - and want to take a moment to address the use of the swastika in the image.  The Swastika was the symbol of a political party/movement in Germany, that of the Nationalist-Socialist movement... The use of the symbol merely identifies the political movement of the individual associated with &quot;Hope&quot; for Germany in the 1930s.  Simialrly, the Hammer and Sickel represented a political party/movement in Russia.  Obama-ites use their symbol for political purposes - and history will judge the future use of that symbol.

To compare Obama (or Bush, for that matter) to Hitler or Lenin is not to directly relate to their historical fame (i.e. mass genocide), rather to the threat of such similarities in policy.  When our political leaders push for totalitarianism, history shows the consequences.  I am not blaming Bush or Obama for genocide - rather warning that all cases of Social Collectivism and Totalitarianism have led to historically grim results.  We need to stay aware of historical trends... which is precisely in line with the theme of the Tea Party - that large government, intrusive government, and government aimed at targetting political dissidents is dangerous.

I shared these same concerns with anyone questioning my sign - though those photographing from a distance were free and likely to draw their own preconceived notions about the intent of such propganda at a rally.  My opinion, perfectly in place.  Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the gentleman pictured with the &#8220;Hope/Change/Obey&#8221; image in this story &#8211; and want to take a moment to address the use of the swastika in the image.  The Swastika was the symbol of a political party/movement in Germany, that of the Nationalist-Socialist movement&#8230; The use of the symbol merely identifies the political movement of the individual associated with &#8220;Hope&#8221; for Germany in the 1930s.  Simialrly, the Hammer and Sickel represented a political party/movement in Russia.  Obama-ites use their symbol for political purposes &#8211; and history will judge the future use of that symbol.</p>
<p>To compare Obama (or Bush, for that matter) to Hitler or Lenin is not to directly relate to their historical fame (i.e. mass genocide), rather to the threat of such similarities in policy.  When our political leaders push for totalitarianism, history shows the consequences.  I am not blaming Bush or Obama for genocide &#8211; rather warning that all cases of Social Collectivism and Totalitarianism have led to historically grim results.  We need to stay aware of historical trends&#8230; which is precisely in line with the theme of the Tea Party &#8211; that large government, intrusive government, and government aimed at targetting political dissidents is dangerous.</p>
<p>I shared these same concerns with anyone questioning my sign &#8211; though those photographing from a distance were free and likely to draw their own preconceived notions about the intent of such propganda at a rally.  My opinion, perfectly in place.  Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: rockthrower</title>
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		<dc:creator>rockthrower</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 17:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Pelosi: Tax Protest Is AstroTurf, Not Grass Roots&#039;

(Roll Call) -- Roll Call newspaper reports that House Democratic leaders on Wednesday &quot;shrugged off&quot; efforts to turn April 15 into a day of &quot;nationwide &#039;tea parties&#039; aimed at protesting tax hikes and wasteful spending.&quot;

In an interview on FOX TV in San Francisco, &quot;Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) chalked up the GOP grass-roots effort as &#039;AstroTurf.&#039; ... &#039;This initiative is funded by the high end; we call it AstroTurf, it&#039;s not really a grass-roots movement.&quot;

The story goes on to report that one senior Democratic aide &quot;has been circulating a document to the media that debunks the effort as one driven by corporate lobbyists and attended by neo-Nazis.&quot;

The tea parties are &quot;&#039;not really all about average citizens,&#039; the document continues, saying neo-Nazis, militias, secessionists and racists are attending them.&quot;

Funny - I was at the Tax Day Tea Party in Denver, and didn&#039;t observe a single Neo-Nazi, militia member, secessionist or racist. Maybe they were stealthily infiltrating the crowd while disguising their true identity and affiliation?

Oh, wait - that was the Leftists!  My bad...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Pelosi: Tax Protest Is AstroTurf, Not Grass Roots&#8217;</p>
<p>(Roll Call) &#8212; Roll Call newspaper reports that House Democratic leaders on Wednesday &#8220;shrugged off&#8221; efforts to turn April 15 into a day of &#8220;nationwide &#8216;tea parties&#8217; aimed at protesting tax hikes and wasteful spending.&#8221;</p>
<p>In an interview on FOX TV in San Francisco, &#8220;Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) chalked up the GOP grass-roots effort as &#8216;AstroTurf.&#8217; &#8230; &#8216;This initiative is funded by the high end; we call it AstroTurf, it&#8217;s not really a grass-roots movement.&#8221;</p>
<p>The story goes on to report that one senior Democratic aide &#8220;has been circulating a document to the media that debunks the effort as one driven by corporate lobbyists and attended by neo-Nazis.&#8221;</p>
<p>The tea parties are &#8220;&#8216;not really all about average citizens,&#8217; the document continues, saying neo-Nazis, militias, secessionists and racists are attending them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Funny &#8211; I was at the Tax Day Tea Party in Denver, and didn&#8217;t observe a single Neo-Nazi, militia member, secessionist or racist. Maybe they were stealthily infiltrating the crowd while disguising their true identity and affiliation?</p>
<p>Oh, wait &#8211; that was the Leftists!  My bad&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Maj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Maj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of bodily fluids, please quit pissing on your fellow supporters of limited government.  There were plenty of signs there to &quot;End The Fed&quot; and many of those targeting the Federal Reserve System were young people who are just as comfortable protesting the welfare state as they are the warfare state.  Obama?  Bush?  Same result: bigger government.  This bridge of economic and civil liberty stands as perhaps the strongest argument against those claiming the event was neo-con  astroturfing, and the PPC&#039;s selective ignorance of this point only feeds the progressives&#039; side of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of bodily fluids, please quit pissing on your fellow supporters of limited government.  There were plenty of signs there to &#8220;End The Fed&#8221; and many of those targeting the Federal Reserve System were young people who are just as comfortable protesting the welfare state as they are the warfare state.  Obama?  Bush?  Same result: bigger government.  This bridge of economic and civil liberty stands as perhaps the strongest argument against those claiming the event was neo-con  astroturfing, and the PPC&#8217;s selective ignorance of this point only feeds the progressives&#8217; side of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Saint-Andre</title>
		<link>http://www.peoplespresscollective.org/2009/04/denver-tea-party-after-action-report/comment-page-1/#comment-2622</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Saint-Andre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the photos. I was there and took some pictures, too. BTW, I&#039;ve also added your blog to Planet Colorado, see http://planetcolorado.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the photos. I was there and took some pictures, too. BTW, I&#8217;ve also added your blog to Planet Colorado, see <a href="http://planetcolorado.org/" onclick="return TrackClick('http%3A%2F%2Fplanetcolorado.org%2F','http%3A%2F%2Fplanetcolorado.org%2F')" rel="nofollow">http://planetcolorado.org/</a></p>
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